No, I think you’re watching too many smooth jazz covers of pop songs by emo kid bands.

Besides, jazz is cool now, remember? Ryan Gosling sneered thoughtfully at a double bass once and now everyone wants a bit of the ol’ syncopation pie.

Well, I guess that means our episode of the podcast this week is right on trend. These two board games are challenging formats – it’s jazz, baby.

Dead of Winter combines a whole heap of mechanics in something that’s surpisingly easy to follow and satisying to play – like an old school zombie movie. Vast, a Best Play favourite, is unlike anything we’ve seen.

If you enjoyed our longest podcast ever (clocking in a 35 minutes), you love hearing it every Wednesday on iTunes.